dannyboy Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 I know laws are in place here, what i mean by the title is, how far will money save you from the law?. Are genuinely rich people here above the law ? Before people get on the corruption debate again, I'm not asking about people's moral stance on tea money, we all know what goes on. I recall a few months a go, a case where a boy of a very rich family got in his car a drove into a bus stop full of people on purpose, as far as i know he's not in jail. How do average Thais feel about this ? Is law and justice for the rich only ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 One word - ***. This Is Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Don't tell OJ :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Unfortunately...the answer is simply: Yes, they are. There is no need for lengthy debate. *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbkbkk Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I know laws are in place here, what i mean by the title is, how far will money save you from the law?. Are genuinely rich people here above the law ?Before people get on the corruption debate again, I'm not asking about people's moral stance on tea money, we all know what goes on. I recall a few months a go, a case where a boy of a very rich family got in his car a drove into a bus stop full of people on purpose, as far as i know he's not in jail. How do average Thais feel about this ? Is law and justice for the rich only ? try having sex with little boys and find out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I know laws are in place here, what i mean by the title is, how far will money save you from the law?. Are genuinely rich people here above the law ?Before people get on the corruption debate again, I'm not asking about people's moral stance on tea money, we all know what goes on. I recall a few months a go, a case where a boy of a very rich family got in his car a drove into a bus stop full of people on purpose, as far as i know he's not in jail. How do average Thais feel about this ? Is law and justice for the rich only ? try having sex with little boys and find out.. the scary thing is...I would not be surprised if the very rich pedophiles in Thailand are getting away it.! Remember, canadian dude was just a teacher...NOT rich and NOT Thai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegee Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 i think my favourite quote on this subject was- 'thailand is a nation of scofflaws'!! can't remember who said it though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I know laws are in place here, what i mean by the title is, how far will money save you from the law?. Are genuinely rich people here above the law ?Before people get on the corruption debate again, I'm not asking about people's moral stance on tea money, we all know what goes on. I recall a few months a go, a case where a boy of a very rich family got in his car a drove into a bus stop full of people on purpose, as far as i know he's not in jail. How do average Thais feel about this ? Is law and justice for the rich only ? try having sex with little boys and find out.. then, for the sake of experiment, try being a member of one of the 'big five' richest families and repeat. i suspect the contrast will be .... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper223 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Thailand have laws, just less used Sure. Like those white lines painted down the roads - more of a suggestion than a rule (or law). äÃèà»ç¹äà Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I know laws are in place here, what i mean by the title is, how far will money save you from the law?. Are genuinely rich people here above the law ?Before people get on the corruption debate again, I'm not asking about people's moral stance on tea money, we all know what goes on. I recall a few months a go, a case where a boy of a very rich family got in his car a drove into a bus stop full of people on purpose, as far as i know he's not in jail. How do average Thais feel about this ? Is law and justice for the rich only ? try having sex with little boys and find out.. As stupid ****, don't think before you post , this is the best I've ever seen. Usually i would have a big argument and call you all the most horrid names imaginable, this time it's not to be. I'm genuinely lost for words at this piece a drivel........ :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Thailand probably rates as fairly average with regards to corruption.There was an article in Time a few months back about the least and most corrupt nations on earth.The US ,by their criteria, was considered the least corrupt but can't remember the most....but for sure 1/2 the world seemed to be scrambling for this prestigious title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyVin Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I m sick of the corruption in thailand.. there is everywhere .. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I am sure I read/heard that prostitution is illegal in Thailand.... lawless society....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 ...The US ,by their criteria, was considered the least corrupt .... surely this is only because new york city was left out of the assessment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I got nicked last night for breaking the law so it can't be that lawless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJack Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 far from it. try going to the bank with nothing short of passport, work permit, bank book if you want to make any changes to anything. my apartment building just made an expressed mandatory request for all foreigners to submit passports for photocopy of details and immigration stamps - ostensibly for the police who have demanded it per a new law passed recently. I work with lawyers and havent heard anything about this. could be just the owner wants to know who is living in the building. so... um... I guess this actually probably points to it being a lawless society. or perhaps, it is rather a lawful society but it is just thai style ... free style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyFantana Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Thailand probably rates as fairly average with regards to corruption.There was an article in Time a few months back about the least and most corrupt nations on earth.The US ,by their criteria, was considered the least corrupt but can't remember the most....but for sure 1/2 the world seemed to be scrambling for this prestigious title. Obviously that was a joke OR this article didn't take into consideration countries like north European and scandinavian countries . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 We always hear about how squeaky clean the Scandinavian countries are. But we've had two big arms procurement corruption scandals in Thailand during the past decade, and they both involved Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyoiy Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 That's why as long as everyone are not totally equal in everything then we can't be real democrazy country.. Money can win over most things... It sounds like different topic but its the same concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Corruption is a trait of the human race. It's just that the western countries like UK like to cover it over using policital bullshit, media brainwashing, fear tactics, false policies etc to mask what's really going on. There's light at the end of the tunnel though, although some places have further to travel than others before they reach their goal but so long as everyone keeps smiling, keeps true to their beliefs, the world will indeed continue to turn. As for those who abuse their rights using cash? ... every dog has its day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valetudo Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 not lawless but very easy to buy you way out of the **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce551 Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Re: "Caught on film" (Postbag, Dec 20). "All the procedures involving the case had been done according to the regulations and with fairness and transparency to all agencies concerned," stated Juthamas Siriwan, former governor of the Tourism Authority of Thailand. Whose regulations, fairness and transparency? According to the United States Department of Justice press release and the Affidavit in Support of Complaint and Arrest Warrants, Khun Juthamas, her daughter and a friend identified as K C are in deep trouble - to the tune of $1.7 million (60 million baht). Khun Juthamas is identified as a "foreign official", under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA), as "officer or employee of a foreign government or any department, agency or instrumentality thereof, or of a public international organisation, or any person acting in an official capacity for or on behalf of any such government or department, agency, or instrumentality, or for or on behalf of any such public international organisation". What an embarrassment she has brought to Thailand! Khun Juthamas allegedly concealed the $1.7 million by opening bank accounts in Singapore, the United Kingdom, and the Isle of Jersey (a British Crown dependency in the Channel Islands) in the form of "commission" ranging from 10% to 20% in her daughter's name, while the daughter has never worked on the Bangkok International Film Festival. In the Affidavit, these payments are identified as "corrupt payments to the Governor". Khun Juthamas was also allegedly involved in the Thailand Privilege Card, which is a large project trying to entice the rich. According to the Affidavit, the evidence is very solid and shows the amounts paid, to whom, in what form, when and where. How is the Thai Foreign Ministry going to investigate these charges/allegations? It certainly must take them very seriously and prosecute to the maximum extent of the law for violating the public trust, concealment, kickback, abuse of power and position, corruption, etc. While Gerald and Patricia Green will get a maximum five years in prison for each count of the conspiracy and the violation of the FCPA, Khun Juthamas deserves double that time for abusing her position, since funding is coming from the Thai taxpayers. What a disgrace to Thailand! MANAS THANANANT California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_George Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Corruption is a trait of the human race. It's just that the western countries like UK like to cover it over using policital bullshit, media brainwashing, fear tactics, false policies etc to mask what's really going on. There's light at the end of the tunnel though, although some places have further to travel than others before they reach their goal but so long as everyone keeps smiling, keeps true to their beliefs, the world will indeed continue to turn. ....Amen ...79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 "Is Thailand a lawless society?" Interesting question. Let's take care of the easy part first. Thailand has laws, a very ancient legal tradition and a fine legal system actually ('though a bit authoritarian for my taste). So it is not a lawless society. The problem in Thailand is not absence of law, it is enforcement of law. Laws in Thailand are not enforced as they should be, for multiple reasons such as buraucratic corruption, insufficient infrastructure, wealth disparity and poverty. Now to the more interesting part. In Asian countries, people rarely resort to law to resolve private conflicts. Instead they act according to a complex system of social norms (costum, traditions, habits, religious norms, etc.). Contrarily to westerners who like to sue the hell out of each other for every little personal conficts, in Asia, the resort to law is often seen as a last option when everything else has failed. This is not necessarily a bad thing, since it avoids overtaxing the legal system and getting lawyers overworked (and overpaid)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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