Grego Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Taxi drivers block roads at Victory Monument. Good thing i am not at Ratchawithi Soi 6 anymore Next time try to live in Dingdaeng in case who want something excite you. why babe, is it closer to ur place ? :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I'm not sure exactly what Thaksin means by this sentence - the translation isn't clear. The sly look of to one side and uncomfortable silence make me think he made a mistake here. Khon Thai... please give us your opinions. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 What's to be the out-come of this I don't know but I for one feel for the cause of the Reds. Last November when the Yellows were protesting, where were the military then? They assisted in the fall of a democratic government and installed one of their liking. The people have spoken on more than one occasion as to who they want in charge...Give them the vote but don't give them the result...It's bullshit in my eyes. The Reds insistence to use violence as a means of protest was their downfall and showed a real lack of competent leadership. The *government* had to respond in such a way but only because the military allowed them to do so. I don't want to hear the words Thailand and Democracy in the same sentence. This is not a democracy, the real people in charge want capitalism and a subservient workforce who fight for crumbs. Let's us call it what it is... A military regime, even if it is behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorea Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I'm not sure exactly what Thaksin means by this sentence - the translation isn't clear. The sly look of to one side and uncomfortable silence make me think he made a mistake here. Khon Thai... please give us your opinions. Thanks Not really sure either but it seems like he wants to be a PM (or more) of Thailand again. Thais are easy to manipulate, sorry to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 IF YOU THINK THAKSIN IS A MAN why he let his ppl fight alone, come and fight with them.... according to the news he will come back and fight. are you ready to welcome him? well we all saw how much fighting thaksin was ready to do !! remembering he made sure all his family were OUT of thailand before the trouble started !! anyway .... i think they should welcome him back .... and sling the murdering robbing **** in the prison cell. where he should be already !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 What's to be the out-come of this I don't know but I for one feel for the cause of the Reds.Last November when the Yellows were protesting, where were the military then? They assisted in the fall of a democratic government and installed one of their liking. The people have spoken on more than one occasion as to who they want in charge...Give them the vote but don't give them the result...It's bullshit in my eyes. The Reds insistence to use violence as a means of protest was their downfall and showed a real lack of competent leadership. The *government* had to respond in such a way but only because the military allowed them to do so. I don't want to hear the words Thailand and Democracy in the same sentence. This is not a democracy, the real people in charge want capitalism and a subservient workforce who fight for crumbs. Let's us call it what it is... A military regime, even if it is behind the scenes. yeah and labour won the last election with 36% of the vote i believe .... with a turnout of around 50% .... meaning roughly 18% of the electorate voted for them !! a real democracy !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMatlock Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 http://bangkokpundit.blogspot.com/2009/04/rule-of-law-and-sacrifice.html I saw this short article and thought it interesting. Any UDD and PAD "supporters" may want to give it a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 What's to be the out-come of this I don't know but I for one feel for the cause of the Reds.Last November when the Yellows were protesting, where were the military then? They assisted in the fall of a democratic government and installed one of their liking. The people have spoken on more than one occasion as to who they want in charge...Give them the vote but don't give them the result...It's bullshit in my eyes. The Reds insistence to use violence as a means of protest was their downfall and showed a real lack of competent leadership. The *government* had to respond in such a way but only because the military allowed them to do so. I don't want to hear the words Thailand and Democracy in the same sentence. This is not a democracy, the real people in charge want capitalism and a subservient workforce who fight for crumbs. Let's us call it what it is... A military regime, even if it is behind the scenes. yeah and labour won the last election with 36% of the vote i believe .... with a turnout of around 50% .... meaning roughly 18% of the electorate voted for them !! a real democracy !! You can call it democracy when you have the freedom to vote and your vote is counted and observed....Whether you choose to vote or not is another matter... When the Thais went to the polls , both times, the vote has been overruled...very democratic. I'm far from being a Thaksin fan but if both times there is a landslide victory, it must tell you something... O yes, that's right. The people of Issan are far too simple to understand the consequences of the electoral process and who they are voting for. Once again. Bangkok is NOT Thailand. 1 person, 1 vote. Not just for the privileged few who think they know better! *Reason for edit* : Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Thaksin's passport revoked... BBC 6pm (and added later...) The issue of an election victory is null and void when the winning party is found guilty of massive vote buying. 'Free and fair' is the benchmark of a valid election. Is it a coincidence that the richest man won? The 30 baht health scheme was unworkable, expensive and driving hospitals to bankcruptcy. The million baht baht village scheme was ridiculously under supervised. Huge sums were given to cronies (under the tag of loans). Loans made to poor people were then used to buy mobile phones and trucks... these loans are not being paid back. Either the country writes them off, or unscrupulous land developers use the loans as blackmail and acquire small farms at cheap prices. Local Kamans were used to 'instruct' villagers which party to vote for (and the Kaman receives a bounty for each vote). I hope the political leaders who have been buying power for so long (in order to reap big returns on their investments) are looking at Thaksin, languishing in a foreign country, assets seized, passport revoked and thinking, "****... if it can happen to him it can happen to us! Maybe we should get some REAL policies and start really helping the poor if we want to keep our jobs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I read a great suggestion somewhere.... Since T-Bag clearly wants to help the people of this country ... The frozen 76 billion baht is up for review soon. After all of the damage that has been done to the country, wouldn't it be good if the 76 billion baht got put in a 'reconciliation fund' that would be used not to buy votes, but to fund education, healthcare, political reform, .... With such high moral standards I'm sure Robin Hood would not object right? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alflarsen Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 tax made thailand rich, and now thailand poor again :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 The leader of Thailand's yellow-shirted protest movement has been shot and hurt in an apparent assassination attempt. Sondhi Limthongkul's People's Alliance for Democracy helped oust ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra in 2006 and brought down a pro-Thaksin government last year. Mr Sondhi was ambushed by gunmen who attacked his car in the Thai capital, Bangkok, spraying it with bullets and hitting him in the skull. Doctors said he was in a stable condition following surgery. Mr Sondhi's driver was said to be in a serious condition, while an aide suffered minor injuries. The attack comes just days after protests by the yellow-shirts' sworn enemies, the pro-Thaksin red-shirts, came to an end. The red-shirts held large rallies in the streets of Bangkok, forcing the cancellation of a high-profile Asian summit and clashing with security forces and local residents. Two people died in the violence. But so far it is unclear who was behind the attack on Mr Sondhi. The BBC's Alastair Leithead in Bangkok says the media mogul and businessman has many enemies - among the red-shirts, but also in the police, the army and the current government. The attack will increase tension between reds and yellows and lead to greater factionalism in an already deeply divided country, our correspondent says. Angry protesters The attack on Mr Sondhi came at dawn on Friday, as he was travelling to record a programme at his television station. "At least two attackers followed Sondhi's car, overtook it and sprayed it with about 100 rounds of gunfire from AK-47 and M-16s," said local police commander Colonel King Kwaengwisatchaicharn, adding that an investigation was under way. In the wake of the attack, security was increased around the current Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, who is working out of an undisclosed location because of fears for his safety. Mr Vejjajiva said a state of emergency imposed on Sunday due to the red-shirted protesters in Bangkok would remain in place. "We have to make sure peace and order truly returns," he said. The largely peaceful demonstrations that paralysed parts of Bangkok turned violent earlier this week; two people died and more than 100 others were injured. Protest leaders called off the action amid a major military crackdown to quell the riots. The red shirts took to the streets demanding that Prime Minister Abhisit step down, and fresh elections to be held. They say that he was illegally installed by parliament in December after courts ousted the government led by Mr Thaksin's allies, and dissolved their parties. The red shirts have expressed anger over the detention of several protest leaders in recent days, while Mr Sondhi and his allies were never prosecuted for their political action. Last year, the yellow shirts occupied Government House for three months and seized Bangkok's two airports for a week, stranding hundreds of thousands of travellers. Meanwhile, Mr Thaksin - who has been calling for a popular uprising against the government - has appealed to the widely-revered Thai king, Bhumibol Adulyadej, to intervene to end the country's political crisis. Thailand annulled Mr Thaksin's passport after his supporters forced the cancellation of a high-profile Asian summit last weekend. Mr Thaksin faces two years in jail if he returns to Thailand, after being sentenced in absentia for abuses of power when he was in office. Alastair Leithead, the BBC's correspondent in Bangkok; The shooting of Sondhi Limthongkul will further divide the reds and yellows of Thai protest movements, whoever is responsible. His yellow-shirted followers of the People's Alliance for Democracy may blame their rival red shirts, but Mr Sondhi had many enemies including in the police and the military. What the attack shows is that political assassinations can now happen on the streets of Bangkok. Movements that have challenged the government may now see increasing levels of tension and even violence between each other, further threatening stability in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CherieAtwood Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Watched the news this morning, his driver is still badly injured I think. Unity, I'm afriad that this word will be gone from this country soon :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Watched the news this morning, his driver is still badly injured I think.Unity, I'm afriad that this word will be gone from this country soon :roll: Sondhi and his driver are in the clear now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Some shots of the car here. http://teakdoor.com/central-thailand-and-bangkok-forum/49036-mr-pot-visits-wrekage-sonthis-car.html How the hell did he survive that? I heard it was M16's and Ak-47's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Some shots of the car here.http://teakdoor.com/central-thailand-and-bangkok-forum/49036-mr-pot-visits-wrekage-sonthis-car.html How the hell did he survive that? Absolutely amazing that 100 odd rounds can be discharged at the car and that all 3 occupants survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Some shots of the car here.http://teakdoor.com/central-thailand-and-bangkok-forum/49036-mr-pot-visits-wrekage-sonthis-car.html How the hell did he survive that? Absolutely amazing that 100 odd rounds can be discharged at the car and that all 3 occupants survived. The would be assassins must have still been pissed-up from Songkhran... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Some shots of the car here.http://teakdoor.com/central-thailand-and-bangkok-forum/49036-mr-pot-visits-wrekage-sonthis-car.html How the hell did he survive that? Absolutely amazing that 100 odd rounds can be discharged at the car and that all 3 occupants survived. The would be assassins must have still been pissed-up from Songkhran... Either that or they were highly trained, long serving police members! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 What's to be the out-come of this I don't know but I for one feel for the cause of the Reds.Last November when the Yellows were protesting, where were the military then? They assisted in the fall of a democratic government and installed one of their liking. The people have spoken on more than one occasion as to who they want in charge...Give them the vote but don't give them the result...It's bullshit in my eyes. The Reds insistence to use violence as a means of protest was their downfall and showed a real lack of competent leadership. The *government* had to respond in such a way but only because the military allowed them to do so. I don't want to hear the words Thailand and Democracy in the same sentence. This is not a democracy, the real people in charge want capitalism and a subservient workforce who fight for crumbs. Let's us call it what it is... A military regime, even if it is behind the scenes. yeah and labour won the last election with 36% of the vote i believe .... with a turnout of around 50% .... meaning roughly 18% of the electorate voted for them !! a real democracy !! You can call it democracy when you have the freedom to vote and your vote is counted and observed....Whether you choose to vote or not is another matter... When the Thais went to the polls , both times, the vote has been overruled...very democratic. I'm far from being a Thaksin fan but if both times there is a landslide victory, it must tell you something... Hey while your around can you pls clarify the bolded sentence as I read it as being, with respect, patently incorrect. Perhaps your not referring to the Dec 07 & April 06 general elections and the subsequent administrative and judicial determinations of conduct which breached of the Electoral Act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 What's to be the out-come of this I don't know but I for one feel for the cause of the Reds.Last November when the Yellows were protesting, where were the military then? They assisted in the fall of a democratic government and installed one of their liking. The people have spoken on more than one occasion as to who they want in charge...Give them the vote but don't give them the result...It's bullshit in my eyes. The Reds insistence to use violence as a means of protest was their downfall and showed a real lack of competent leadership. The *government* had to respond in such a way but only because the military allowed them to do so. I don't want to hear the words Thailand and Democracy in the same sentence. This is not a democracy, the real people in charge want capitalism and a subservient workforce who fight for crumbs. Let's us call it what it is... A military regime, even if it is behind the scenes. yeah and labour won the last election with 36% of the vote i believe .... with a turnout of around 50% .... meaning roughly 18% of the electorate voted for them !! a real democracy !! You can call it democracy when you have the freedom to vote and your vote is counted and observed....Whether you choose to vote or not is another matter... When the Thais went to the polls , both times, the vote has been overruled...very democratic. I'm far from being a Thaksin fan but if both times there is a landslide victory, it must tell you something... Hey while your around can you pls clarify the bolded sentence as I read it as being, with respect, patently incorrect. Perhaps your not referring to the Dec 07 & April 06 general elections and the subsequent administrative and judicial determinations of conduct which breached of the Electoral Act? You know it, I know it. The soi dogs know it! Votes can be bought in Thailand and ALL sides partake in this sordid practice. Both TRT and the PPP won with massive majorities, you are not seriously suggesting they bought EVERY vote? Anyway, please leave me alone now so I can Google a little bit. I don't want to look like a complete fool.... :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 What's to be the out-come of this I don't know but I for one feel for the cause of the Reds.Last November when the Yellows were protesting, where were the military then? They assisted in the fall of a democratic government and installed one of their liking. The people have spoken on more than one occasion as to who they want in charge...Give them the vote but don't give them the result...It's bullshit in my eyes. The Reds insistence to use violence as a means of protest was their downfall and showed a real lack of competent leadership. The *government* had to respond in such a way but only because the military allowed them to do so. I don't want to hear the words Thailand and Democracy in the same sentence. This is not a democracy, the real people in charge want capitalism and a subservient workforce who fight for crumbs. Let's us call it what it is... A military regime, even if it is behind the scenes. yeah and labour won the last election with 36% of the vote i believe .... with a turnout of around 50% .... meaning roughly 18% of the electorate voted for them !! a real democracy !! You can call it democracy when you have the freedom to vote and your vote is counted and observed....Whether you choose to vote or not is another matter... When the Thais went to the polls , both times, the vote has been overruled...very democratic. I'm far from being a Thaksin fan but if both times there is a landslide victory, it must tell you something... Hey while your around can you pls clarify the bolded sentence as I read it as being, with respect, patently incorrect. Perhaps your not referring to the Dec 07 & April 06 general elections and the subsequent administrative and judicial determinations of conduct which breached of the Electoral Act? You know it, I know it. The soi dogs know it! Votes can be bought in Thailand and ALL sides partake in this sordid practice. Both TRT and the PPP won with massive majorities, you are not seriously suggesting they bought EVERY vote? No of course not but the two fold effect of populist policies and vote buying on a massive scale gave TRT a good showing in the Jan 2005 election. TRT would have won without vote buying one suspects. Academic research seems to show that vote buying in some areas does not necessarily buy loyalty. The two judicial cases banning of TRT (2006 by the then Constitutional Tribunal) & PPP (Dec 08 by the Constitutional Court) executive members and dissolution of both parties occured due to breaches of the Electoral Act and thus the Constitution. Basically, the act states that if an executive of a political party if guilty of electoral fraud and/or breaches of the act the party must be dissolved. Now many have argued that the consequence is severe and perhaps disproportionate but in the context of the electoral history of Thailand it does send a clear message. In lasts year case the electoral malfeasance of one PPP executive, Yongyuth, was sufficient to have the party dissolved and exec banned. In both cases complaints were first investigated by the Electoral Commission which made an preliminary finding upholding the complaints and then referred the case to the courts for judicial determination. It is important to remember that these cases against party executives ARE seperate from other cases referred by the Electoral Commission to the Supreme Court against individual elected members found to have committed electoral breaches. One of the problems is that the EC is so slow thus the case against the PPP from the late Dec 08 election was not referred until late August last year (perhaps early Sept as I am going on memory). The Constitutional Court thereafter held hearings and handed down its decision in early Dec (a timeframe clearly advanced to end the airport protest before the Kings birthday). I am presenting a very simplified version here of quite complicated legal proceedings and issues so don't take it as an accurate summary of all the facts. Clearly, TRT & PPP had a huge electoral base in the 2005, 2006 & 2007 elections. However, in two prolonged cases TRT and PPP executives were found to have engaged in electoral breaches. In seperate individual cases, elected members had their results anulled for electoral fraud, and members from other parties including the Dems. Short of criminal penalties the collective impact of such cases should in the long term hopefully reduce cases of electoral fraud. The most recent elections arising from last Decemberss case had the current govt (coalition parties) win 21 of 27 seats including former PPP seats so read into that what you will. So I do believe that the assertion that the elections have been overuled in some undemocractic manner is both incorrect and misleading as the Electoral Act and Rule of Law was upheld. Democracy is the winner even if it is a messy democracy in this cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Some shots of the car here.http://teakdoor.com/central-thailand-and-bangkok-forum/49036-mr-pot-visits-wrekage-sonthis-car.html How the hell did he survive that? Absolutely amazing that 100 odd rounds can be discharged at the car and that all 3 occupants survived. The would be assassins must have still been pissed-up from Songkhran... Either that or they were highly trained, long serving police members! According to the latest reports from the BBC, the police have checked immigration records and identified several of the suspected assasins as having spent 3 months in the USA at the Holywood Bad Guy Shooting School. Apparently, they all scored very highly in the Missing the Barn Door exams and the Blatant Pepper Everything With Bullets Except the Target exam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oo.Cloud.oO Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 assassins? that's given the ppl too much credit especially with bad aim - and that's not a joke that just me saying..... if someone or a group of someones shot one person its usually a murder but ya know what they say, when your great.... its not murder, it assassinate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Some shots of the car here.http://teakdoor.com/central-thailand-and-bangkok-forum/49036-mr-pot-visits-wrekage-sonthis-car.html How the hell did he survive that? Absolutely amazing that 100 odd rounds can be discharged at the car and that all 3 occupants survived. i know, right? f***ing fisher-price assassins, worse shots than New York drug dealers, who at least manage to off an honors student now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Some shots of the car here.http://teakdoor.com/central-thailand-and-bangkok-forum/49036-mr-pot-visits-wrekage-sonthis-car.html How the hell did he survive that? Absolutely amazing that 100 odd rounds can be discharged at the car and that all 3 occupants survived. u'd be surprised how many shots r fired in combat per death ... about 1,000 shots per fatality i read somewhere !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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