Global Warming, just a hoax?

[zeusbheld]

post all the opinions you'd like...I know you will. You love to rant about your own little favorite items. Usually about how much you know and others don't.

half right in that i often rant about how little people who are posturing as if they know something actually know. it isn't a question of me knowing all that much, i don't. you're the one who prattles on about me and what i may or may not know. awfully convenient to change the subject isn't it?

here's what usually happens: you post bullshit. i call you on it.

no wonder you keep trying to change the subject. good plan! if you make it about me, then maybe no one will bother to click back and take a close look at what *you* wrote. (and what you wrote it in defense of).

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[Mister Moobs]

post all the opinions you'd like...I know you will. You love to rant about your own little favorite items. Usually about how much you know and others don't.

half right in that i often rant about how little people who are posturing as if they know something actually know. it isn't a question of me knowing all that much, i don't. you're the one who prattles on about me and what i may or may not know. awfully convenient to change the subject isn't it?

here's what usually happens: you post bullshit. i call you on it.

no wonder you keep trying to change the subject. good plan! if you make it about me, then maybe no one will bother to click back and take a close look at what *you* wrote. (and what you wrote it in defense of).

Remind me again of what I wrote in defense of. The **** is so inconsequential that I often forget.

What was I defending this time?

It wasn't global warming. It wasn't the legion of global warming detractors and nay sayers.

I actually thought that I was OH OH OH--fending in this thread.

But hey, you're posting about it so you must be the expert on this subject as you are on any subject about which you rant. So sayeth Zeus. So let it be written. So let it be done.

[beej]

******* hell, you could get into a battle on just about any thread going you could.

:roll:

[DANNO]

I don't think he's a real Southron. He mispelled

mmmmm doesn't that make him more REAL?????????

Oh Hell ...Now I am getting lessons and doubts of intelligence from both the ying and the yang

You guyd decide who is who :wink:

And BTW ...I am getting ANGRY !!!

[DANNO]

...ya'll were joking!

you are sounding disturbingly like a Tennessee Williams monologue...

:wink:

I don't think he's a real Southron. He mispelled "y'all." A true Southron would have spelled it correctly. He must be a carpetbagger DOOK fan who hangs out with Dukie Vitale drinking Coach Kryshitskis virgin tears. :twisted:

now you can insult a man all you want but when you call him a Dookie, them's SERIOUS charges.

Zeus...& (listen Dave he is right)

I may have to turn out the hounds...What the world in general doesn't know is that .... he is a closet Tar Heel. May have to take out that full page ad in the Lexington Ky paper, with Moobs' quote --yes still on my harddrive Dave ---you can never go home again :twisted:

--- Thomas Wolfe (UNC class of 1905)

ALOHA

[eagle]

ummmpt..

[Mister Moobs]

f*cking hell, you could get into a battle on just about any thread going you could.

:roll:[/quote

It's not the thread. It's the people.

I make a post and a few folks can't help themselves. THEY MUST REPLY. It's like throwing meth rock out in a room full of crack heads. They can't help themselves. Then I sit back and laugh. Me and a few others. And a few uninvolved folks get pissy every once in a while.

This thread wasn't going anywhere anyway. Just a few of the usual suspects patting each other on the back and occasionally lip locking with each other.

[eagle]

f*cking hell, you could get into a battle on just about any thread going you could.

:roll:[/quote

It's not the thread. It's the people.

I make a post and a few folks can't help themselves. THEY MUST REPLY. It's like throwing meth rock out in a room full of crack heads. They can't help themselves. Then I sit back and laugh. Me and a few others. And a few uninvolved folks get pissy every once in a while.

This thread wasn't going anywhere anyway. Just a few of the usual suspects patting each other on the back and occasionally lip locking with each other.

thats was a good hit that one

[LakeGeneve]

ummmpt..

Looks like a dugong? poor thing that would have hurt....

[beej]

The UK faces a "catastrophe" of floods, droughts and killer heatwaves if world leaders fail to agree a deal on climate change, the prime minister has warned.

Gordon Brown said negotiators had 50 days to save the world from global warming and break the "impasse".

[Hugo]

ummmpt..

Looks like a dugong? poor thing that would have hurt....

But a HUGE bump :!:

[zeusbheld]

Remind me again of what I wrote in defense of. The sh*t is so inconsequential that I often forget.

no wonder your posts are among the most forgettable.

What was I defending this time?

a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut's "right to an opinion." because, um. people should have the right to say stupid **** without being, like, laughed at and stuff. apparently. tilt on, white knight, there are plenty of nut jobs need your special brand of deliverance.

But hey, you're posting about it so you must be the expert on this subject as you are on any subject about which you rant. So sayeth Zeus. So let it be written. So let it be done.

your ignorance does *not* render me an expert. just slightly less lazy (and self-important) than you.

[zeusbheld]

I make a post and a few folks can't help themselves. THEY MUST REPLY. It's like throwing meth rock out in a room full of crack heads. They can't help themselves. Then I sit back and laugh.

further evidence that comedy is not your strength. don't quit your day job.

This thread wasn't going anywhere anyway.

yet strangely, why *i* say so you have a problem with it...

[zeusbheld]

The UK faces a "catastrophe" of floods, droughts and killer heatwaves if world leaders fail to agree a deal on climate change, the prime minister has warned.

Gordon Brown said negotiators had 50 days to save the world from global warming and break the "impasse".

has he always been this much of a drama queen?

[Mister Moobs]

I've read all of this somewhere before...

[Mister Moobs]

yet strangely, why *i* say so you have a problem with it...

Who had a problem with something?

You're the one still responding.

[Mister Moobs]

Not only does Zeus know all things. Now he's the humor police.

Has Comedy Central called you up to review their upcoming season?

Ask Zeus, Part II.

Try your jokes out on Zeusy. He'll let you know if you should keep your day job.

[zeusbheld]

yet strangely, why *i* say so you have a problem with it...

Who had a problem with something?

You're the one still responding.

finally! something funny! hope that was intentional (but doubt it).

[CiaranM]

The UK faces a "catastrophe" of floods, droughts and killer heatwaves if world leaders fail to agree a deal on climate change, the prime minister has warned.

Gordon Brown said negotiators had 50 days to save the world from global warming and break the "impasse".

unfortunately if that ***** says it .... i'm now more likely to believe global warmimg is a hoax !! jock **** !!

[Mister Moobs]

yet strangely, why *i* say so you have a problem with it...

Who had a problem with something?

You're the one still responding.

finally! something funny! hope that was intentional (but doubt it).

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but, MOST of all....I want to thank God

for in her all things are possible

Hallelujah

[Hobbes]

Just another bunch of, no doubt overpaid and delusional, scientist published their research in some rag called 'Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America' not owned by News Corporation which can therefore obviously not be really trusted. :roll:

An excerpt from their press release:

?Our results show that the ?human footprint? is overpowering long-standing natural processes, even in remote Arctic regions,? says Dr. Smol, winner of the 2004 NSERC Herzberg Gold Medal as Canada?s top scientist. ?This historical record shows that we are dramatically affecting the ecosystems on which we depend. We have started uncontrolled experiments on this planet, and we have entered unchartered territory. The situation is far worse than we thought and this is only the beginning.?

Those that can endure a scientific paper that goes past the head-line-sensationalism of the tabloid press can find the published paper here on the PNAS website or alternatively also here.

[LakeGeneve]

There was an interesting AP article reproduced in Spectrum, Sundays BKK Post. AP had requested 4 different statisticians to independently look at data in relation to the claims that global temps had been cooling in the last 10 years. Something which has been repeated in this thread.

A couple of extracts;

The case that the Earth might be cooling partly stems from recent weather. Last year was cooler than previous years. It's been a while since the super-hot years of 1998 and 2005. So is this a longer climate trend or just weather's normal ups and downs?

In a blind test, the AP gave temperature data to four independent statisticians and asked them to look for trends, without telling them what the numbers represented. The experts found no true temperature declines over time.

"If you look at the data and sort of cherry-pick a micro-trend within a bigger trend, that technique is particularly suspect," said John Grego, a professor of statistics at the University of South Carolina. Yet the idea that things are cooling has been repeated in opinion columns, a BBC news story posted on the Drudge Report and in a new book by the authors of the best-seller "Freakonomics." Global warming skeptics base their claims on an unusually hot year in 1998. Since then, they say, temperatures have dropped ? thus, a cooling trend. But it's not that simple.

Since 1998, temperatures have dipped, soared, fallen again and are now rising once more. Records kept by the British meteorological office and satellite data used by climate skeptics still show 1998 as the hottest year. However, data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA show 2005 has topped 1998. Published peer-reviewed scientific research generally cites temperatures measured by ground sensors, which are from NOAA, NASA and the British, more than the satellite data.

The recent Internet chatter about cooling led NOAA's climate data center to re-examine its temperature data. It found no cooling trend.

"The last 10 years are the warmest 10-year period of the modern record," said NOAA climate monitoring chief Deke Arndt. "Even if you analyze the trend during that 10 years, the trend is actually positive, which means warming."

I don't argue with youthat the 10-year average for the past 10 years is higher than the previous 10 years," said Easterbrook, who has self-published some of his research. "We started the cooling trend after 1998. You're going to get a different line depending on which year you choose. "Should not the actual temperature be higher now than it was in 1998?" Easterbrook asked. "We can play the numbers games." That's the problem, some of the statisticians said.

Grego produced three charts to show how choosing a starting date can alter perceptions. Using the skeptics' satellite data beginning in 1998, there is a "mild downward trend," he said. But doing that is "deceptive." The trend disappears if the analysis starts in 1997. And it trends upward if you begin in 1999, he said.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/ap-impact-statisticians-reject-174088.html

[Bruce551]

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