Ja!!!

[PeeMarc]

Why would I be told not to say "ja" in a simple conversation with a Thai lady I know well when my only intention was (is) to soften the words I use?

I've also been told by a couple of cynical (jaded?) ladies that when a guy uses "ja" a lot it makes him sound like he's 'jao choo' - too charming with the girls and perhaps a butterfly.

[Neo]

Here's my take on it...

"na" has an imperative sense to it, in much the same way as Canadians and New Zealanders tack "eh" onto the end of sentences. It can make things seem more friendly by engendering agreement. It is casual but not necessarily intimate or sweet.

"ja" and the longer "jaa" are generally used to talk sweetly. Obviously these can be used when talking with children, but when talking with adults it implies sweetness and intimacy. If a guy uses these words with a woman that he doesn't know she might think he is "bahg wahn" (sweet mouth) and perhaps a bit of a lady's man. If a guy uses these words with a woman that he does know well, he is emphasising intimacy and friendliness. This is perfectly acceptable amongst couples and in romantic situations, but might get confusing between platonic friends. If a guy uses these words with another guy he is gay.

Girls can and do use these words whenever they feel like it. That's how girl's brains work.

[PeeMarc]

Here's my take on it...

"na" has an imperative sense to it, in much the same way as Canadians and New Zealanders tack "eh" onto the end of sentences. It can make things seem more friendly by engendering agreement. It is casual but not necessarily intimate or sweet.

"ja" and the longer "jaa" are generally used to talk sweetly. Obviously these can be used when talking with children, but when talking with adults it implies sweetness and intimacy. If a guy uses these words with a woman that he doesn't know she might think he is "bahg wahn" (sweet mouth) and perhaps a bit of a lady's man. If a guy uses these words with a woman that he does know well, he is emphasising intimacy and friendliness. This is perfectly acceptable amongst couples and in romantic situations, but might get confusing between platonic friends. If a guy uses these words with another guy he is gay.

Girls can and do use these words whenever they feel like it. That's how girl's brains work.

there seem to be as many ways to use "ja" as there are Thai smiles. "ja' can also be used very sarcastically and even a short "ja" can mean "ok, but I still think you're full of ****".

[drlovelife8]

This is my take on it.

I would like to know the actual sentences P'ant was saying to her followed by 'ja'

That might help explain her reasons. Also I feel it depends on how well SHE feels he knows her, not how well HE FEELS he knows. She might not really want to get further than an online chat (and we all know guys often push for more) then she can say "Don't try to be intimate" or words to that effect.

I was also told it is more likely for girls and gays to use it in everyday chit chat, but blokes can, if they know how and when to say it. This is the problem.

As farangs we often make this mistake of getting 1 functional explanation for a word and trying to apply it to everything remotely similar.

Like when newbie farangs start using 'KRAB PHOM' because they think it is more polite in any situation, it is, sometimes, and sometimes you will look like a penis head. Wrong place wrong time sort of thing. Like to an 18 year old hooker for example, or the maid or cleaner at work... Maybe the odd joke, but not normal chit chat with those examples as a middle aged farang.

That internet chick probably gets loads of blokes 'jaa'ing her up all day trying it on and she is piss board of it.

I have used it with significant lovers/girlfriends and in a flirty-comedy type way with sex giks and that's about it........Ja

P'ant stated 'Why would I be told not to say "ja" in a simple conversation with a Thai lady I know well when my only intention was (is) to soften the words I use?'

BECAUSE she probably does not know or believe your intention was innocent or she is sick of sweet mouthed Phagk-waan farangs (how the **** do you spell that 'sweet mouth' thing) hunting for online fucks, which I accept you fully were not...................Ja

I was born in Birmingham, England of Irish decent. Consequently the word ******* generally means 'very' in my life. Sometimes I have to refrain from using it in some company as they don't know in Birmingham people say "******* hell!! That was ******* delicious."

We need to focus on their (the receiver's) understanding of the words and find other, nicer ways of saying it. Plenty of ways to soften your sentences with out using a word which is often seen as flirty, intimate and suggestive from male to female adults.

Just as I have had to learn to not use "*******" as an alternative to "very"

Hope that helps.

Just my 2 satangs................. Ja

[PiAnt]

This is my take on it.

I would like to know the actual sentences P'ant was saying to her followed by 'ja'

(12:26:04 AM) XXXX: pi Ant mee facebook ma/

(12:26:16 AM) Ant: i dont use it ja

(12:26:29 AM) XXXX: aow lor

(12:26:40 AM) XXXX: mai sanook lei

(12:26:44 AM) Ant: chai ja i don't like it much

(12:27:08 AM) XXXX: i dont like but i mee na

(12:27:31 AM) Ant: it doesn't let me look at much if i don't have too

(12:29:24 AM) XXXX: i found XXXX, XXXX, XXXX on facebook. i didnt know XXXX got XXXX and XXXX. didnt know before.

(12:29:34 AM) Ant: ohhh

(12:29:40 AM) XXXX: jing

(12:30:01 AM) Ant: so many people on there

(12:30:08 AM) XXXX: chai

(12:30:19 AM) Ant: some people i don't want to see again too

(12:30:26 AM) XXXX: i broke up with my boyfriend cos of facebook ni la.

(12:30:37 AM) Ant: ahh

(12:30:58 AM) XXXX: i looked his profile and i saw the photos of him and girls

(12:31:03 AM) Ant: ohh

(12:31:06 AM) Ant: hmm sorry

(12:31:20 AM) XXXX: mai pen rai i'll be ok

(12:31:40 AM) Ant: good ja i hope so

(12:31:54 AM) XXXX: dont say ja to me ngai

(12:32:43 AM) Ant: if you talk to me i wil say ja

(Name removed for obvious reasons.)

That might help explain her reasons. Also I feel it depends on how well SHE feels he knows her, not how well HE FEELS he knows. She might not really want to get further than an online chat (and we all know guys often push for more) then she can say "Don't try to be intimate" or words to that effect.

A lady I've known for maybe 8 years. And well too.

Sorry to disappoint you, but, despite who I am here, ask anyone male or female who knows me, has ever met or chatted with me, if I am anything other than a pefectly friendly and polite gentleman.

If my other words were, as you intimated, something a gentleman wouldn't say then I could understand it.

But they weren't and I've ja'd with this lady umpteen times over the years.

My problem was has my saying "ja" really been bothering her for so long?

[PeeMarc]

But they weren't and I've ja'd with this lady umpteen times over the years.

My problem was has my saying "ja" really been bothering her for so long?

Given all this, I would say she didnt feel comfortable (vulnerable perhhaps?) at that particular time having a guy being (chatting) close and intimate. Perhaps she just wanted meaningless banter without any connotations at all.

[PowerPoof]

You white boys just don't understand.. :drunk:

[Teddy]

You white boys just don't understand.. :drunk:

Way to stir the pot Missy. Who's been teaching you that sort of language? Shame on them. :wink:

[PiAnt]

But they weren't and I've ja'd with this lady umpteen times over the years.

My problem was has my saying "ja" really been bothering her for so long?

Given all this, I would say she didnt feel comfortable (vulnerable perhhaps?) at that particular time having a guy being (chatting) close and intimate. Perhaps she just wanted meaningless banter without any connotations at all.

Maybe, but she knows that's how I talk mate, and it's not like we've never talked before.

It's just made me think that, maybe, some other ladies might also feel uncomy about it.

Anyway, it's what I say and it's who I am. I constantly refer to mates as "mate" and women as "ja". If I email my sister back home I'll use ja too.

I expect it's coming from a culture where we use terms of endearment (love, chuck, duck, mate etc), pretty much all the time. I expect you've got just as many back in Australia too and use them just as frequently.

Though, chatting with a Thai bloke (colleague of a friend), I referred to him as mate, he thought I was asking him to marry me. I had to explain that it's just a term blokes use with blokes but he still looks funny at me.

[Lillydilly]

having fun finding the answer ja P'Ant?

now go and ask her did you annoyed her or she was just simply not wanting to hear you say it at that moment ..we are women sometimes you don't need to understand us coz our frustration is only meant nothing just needed u to listen

[PiAnt]

having fun finding the answer ja P'Ant?

now go and ask her did you annoyed her or she was just simply not wanting to hear you say it at that moment ..we are women sometimes you don't need to understand us coz our frustration is only meant nothing just needed u to listen

I tried to listen ja, I was being sympathetic, but I don't always notice how much I might say ja, and I'm wary if I ever talk to someone new of any (adverse or otherwise) reaction to it.

And, I should say, there are many ladies who use it just as ermm "meaninglessly" as I do.

[drlovelife8]

This is my take on it.

I would like to know the actual sentences P'ant was saying to her followed by 'ja'

(12:26:04 AM) XXXX: pi Ant mee facebook ma/

(12:26:16 AM) Ant: i dont use it ja

(12:26:29 AM) XXXX: aow lor

(12:26:40 AM) XXXX: mai sanook lei

(12:26:44 AM) Ant: chai ja i don't like it much

(12:27:08 AM) XXXX: i dont like but i mee na

(12:27:31 AM) Ant: it doesn't let me look at much if i don't have too

(12:29:24 AM) XXXX: i found XXXX, XXXX, XXXX on facebook. i didnt know XXXX got XXXX and XXXX. didnt know before.

(12:29:34 AM) Ant: ohhh

(12:29:40 AM) XXXX: jing

(12:30:01 AM) Ant: so many people on there

(12:30:08 AM) XXXX: chai

(12:30:19 AM) Ant: some people i don't want to see again too

(12:30:26 AM) XXXX: i broke up with my boyfriend cos of facebook ni la.

(12:30:37 AM) Ant: ahh

(12:30:58 AM) XXXX: i looked his profile and i saw the photos of him and girls

(12:31:03 AM) Ant: ohh

(12:31:06 AM) Ant: hmm sorry

(12:31:20 AM) XXXX: mai pen rai i'll be ok

(12:31:40 AM) Ant: good ja i hope so

(12:31:54 AM) XXXX: dont say ja to me ngai

(12:32:43 AM) Ant: if you talk to me i wil say ja

(Name removed for obvious reasons.)

That might help explain her reasons. Also I feel it depends on how well SHE feels he knows her, not how well HE FEELS he knows. She might not really want to get further than an online chat (and we all know guys often push for more) then she can say "Don't try to be intimate" or words to that effect.

A lady I've known for maybe 8 years. And well too.

Sorry to disappoint you, but, despite who I am here, ask anyone male or female who knows me, has ever met or chatted with me, if I am anything other than a pefectly friendly and polite gentleman.

If my other words were, as you intimated, something a gentleman wouldn't say then I could understand it.

But they weren't and I've ja'd with this lady umpteen times over the years.

My problem was has my saying "ja" really been bothering her for so long?

Well, it appears that you only did it once as a 'good ja'

If this is really all that was said, delete the dumb ***** ja. If you are holding out ja, don't worry anyway ja, post the WHOLE chat and we can dissect it ja.

I didn't realise you had been here 8 years dude ja. I suggest to spam her daily with thousands of sentences followed by ja...........................................

Ja

As for the white boy comment ( MissJaidee) and Teddy's reply, I can make a good guess where she did get taught such phases......... Ja

[PiAnt]

This is my take on it.

I would like to know the actual sentences P'ant was saying to her followed by 'ja'

(12:26:04 AM) XXXX: pi Ant mee facebook ma/

(12:26:16 AM) Ant: i dont use it ja

(12:26:29 AM) XXXX: aow lor

(12:26:40 AM) XXXX: mai sanook lei

(12:26:44 AM) Ant: chai ja i don't like it much

(12:27:08 AM) XXXX: i dont like but i mee na

(12:27:31 AM) Ant: it doesn't let me look at much if i don't have too

(12:29:24 AM) XXXX: i found XXXX, XXXX, XXXX on facebook. i didnt know XXXX got XXXX and XXXX. didnt know before.

(12:29:34 AM) Ant: ohhh

(12:29:40 AM) XXXX: jing

(12:30:01 AM) Ant: so many people on there

(12:30:08 AM) XXXX: chai

(12:30:19 AM) Ant: some people i don't want to see again too

(12:30:26 AM) XXXX: i broke up with my boyfriend cos of facebook ni la.

(12:30:37 AM) Ant: ahh

(12:30:58 AM) XXXX: i looked his profile and i saw the photos of him and girls

(12:31:03 AM) Ant: ohh

(12:31:06 AM) Ant: hmm sorry

(12:31:20 AM) XXXX: mai pen rai i'll be ok

(12:31:40 AM) Ant: good ja i hope so

(12:31:54 AM) XXXX: dont say ja to me ngai

(12:32:43 AM) Ant: if you talk to me i wil say ja

(Name removed for obvious reasons.)

That might help explain her reasons. Also I feel it depends on how well SHE feels he knows her, not how well HE FEELS he knows. She might not really want to get further than an online chat (and we all know guys often push for more) then she can say "Don't try to be intimate" or words to that effect.

A lady I've known for maybe 8 years. And well too.

Sorry to disappoint you, but, despite who I am here, ask anyone male or female who knows me, has ever met or chatted with me, if I am anything other than a pefectly friendly and polite gentleman.

If my other words were, as you intimated, something a gentleman wouldn't say then I could understand it.

But they weren't and I've ja'd with this lady umpteen times over the years.

My problem was has my saying "ja" really been bothering her for so long?

Well, it appears that you only did it once as a 'good ja'

If this is really all that was said, delete the dumb b*tch ja. If you are holding out ja, don't worry anyway ja, post the WHOLE chat and we can dissect it ja.

I didn't realise you had been here 8 years dude ja.

It might appear that I said it once, but anyone else would count 3 plus one more at the end.

And I've only known her for about 8 years or so, but this is my eleventh.

Sorry, there was no sleaze to edit out.

What a ******* tosser.

(You, not me.)

[Crustyjuggler]

What a f*cking tosser.

(You, not me.)

Jaaaaa

[drlovelife8]

This is my take on it.

I would like to know the actual sentences P'ant was saying to her followed by 'ja'

(12:26:04 AM) XXXX: pi Ant mee facebook ma/

(12:26:16 AM) Ant: i dont use it ja

(12:26:29 AM) XXXX: aow lor

(12:26:40 AM) XXXX: mai sanook lei

(12:26:44 AM) Ant: chai ja i don't like it much

(12:27:08 AM) XXXX: i dont like but i mee na

(12:27:31 AM) Ant: it doesn't let me look at much if i don't have too

(12:29:24 AM) XXXX: i found XXXX, XXXX, XXXX on facebook. i didnt know XXXX got XXXX and XXXX. didnt know before.

(12:29:34 AM) Ant: ohhh

(12:29:40 AM) XXXX: jing

(12:30:01 AM) Ant: so many people on there

(12:30:08 AM) XXXX: chai

(12:30:19 AM) Ant: some people i don't want to see again too

(12:30:26 AM) XXXX: i broke up with my boyfriend cos of facebook ni la.

(12:30:37 AM) Ant: ahh

(12:30:58 AM) XXXX: i looked his profile and i saw the photos of him and girls

(12:31:03 AM) Ant: ohh

(12:31:06 AM) Ant: hmm sorry

(12:31:20 AM) XXXX: mai pen rai i'll be ok

(12:31:40 AM) Ant: good ja i hope so

(12:31:54 AM) XXXX: dont say ja to me ngai

(12:32:43 AM) Ant: if you talk to me i wil say ja

(Name removed for obvious reasons.)

That might help explain her reasons. Also I feel it depends on how well SHE feels he knows her, not how well HE FEELS he knows. She might not really want to get further than an online chat (and we all know guys often push for more) then she can say "Don't try to be intimate" or words to that effect.

A lady I've known for maybe 8 years. And well too.

Sorry to disappoint you, but, despite who I am here, ask anyone male or female who knows me, has ever met or chatted with me, if I am anything other than a pefectly friendly and polite gentleman.

If my other words were, as you intimated, something a gentleman wouldn't say then I could understand it.

But they weren't and I've ja'd with this lady umpteen times over the years.

My problem was has my saying "ja" really been bothering her for so long?

Well, it appears that you only did it once as a 'good ja'

If this is really all that was said, delete the dumb b*tch ja. If you are holding out ja, don't worry anyway ja, post the WHOLE chat and we can dissect it ja.

I didn't realise you had been here 8 years dude ja.

It might appear that I said it once, but anyone else would count 3 plus one more at the end.

And I've only known her for about 8 years or so, but this is my eleventh.

Sorry, there was no sleaze to edit out.

What a f*cking tosser.

(You, not me.)

Your constant porno pics suggest you toss more than I, also your constant suggestive posts show a brain gagging for sex. JA

I won't resort to name calling as it is child like.............Ja.

Girls here are board of sexy styled chat hidden as platonic friendship, that's why they react to Ja and stuff like it as so.JA

You are probably innocent but you show a lack of awarness when you ask why she would be so upset. Imagine what percentage of online males are gentlemanly to her....... See, easy. Many scope for sex. JA

How many here are on ThailoveL**KS website?????????? We all know why that's famous. Ja

But you are probably innocent........... Ja

[CiaranM]

You white boys just don't understand.. :drunk:

tell us something new !!!! :roll: :roll:

[Admin_2]

Guys can use ja. Girls and gay guys use it more often.

It means the same thing as khrub, but it's just more sweet sounding. I usually use it with people I know well, but will rarely use it with unknown customers only if the mood calls for it. I use it with female strangers if I know there is 100% no way that they would think I'm trying to flirt with them (young girls and old women).

For example, if an older woman can't stop being bubbly and excited about how cute FotoBook is, I follow her lead and might throw in a "ja" to say "yes" when she asks a "chai mai" question.

[Stramash]

nein?

[DANNO]

You white boys just don't understand.. :drunk:

Way to stir the pot Missy. Who's been teaching you that sort of language? Shame on them. :wink:

yes ...no doubt Missy Missy has "fallen under" a bad influence! :wink:

[PowerPoof]

You white boys just don't understand.. :drunk:

Way to stir the pot Missy. Who's been teaching you that sort of language? Shame on them. :wink:

yes ...no doubt Missy Missy has "fallen under" a bad influence! :wink:

Well, sometimes I just can't stop my wide mouth and narrow mind..so it's good for me to just blow off steam... ja... :winky:

[digitalcat]

You white boys just don't understand.. :drunk:

Way to stir the pot Missy. Who's been teaching you that sort of language? Shame on them. :wink:

yes ...no doubt Missy Missy has "fallen under" a bad influence! :wink:

Well, sometimes I just can't stop my wide mouth and narrow mind..so it's good for me to just blow off steam... ja... :winky:

Kekekekekke she said blow. Ja